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  1. kmtoplay

    kmtoplay Sex Machine

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    So my wife over the years became less and less interested in oral both giving and receiving. Of course I love to give and receive and it is kind of a big deal to me. So the other night i made a comment about licking and it blew up into a huge argument about Oral sex and why she will not do it anymore. We left the argument open with her really saying nothing more than she just does not like to do it. Would not cite specifics or anything just left it at that. Of course I am kind of upset and say well is it OK if I get them elsewhere then if you will not do it (Yes I know NOT the right thing to do but I was pissed off about the lack of conversation) So this now has been 6 days with nothing else said and cutoff completely from physical interaction at all.

    I should mention we do have sex quite a bit but No oral. So should I make a huge deal out of this and press on or should I just be happy we are still physical in nature and move on. I am highly sexual and this is kind of a big deal to me the fact that she says she does not like it kind of makes me feel it is about me in some way.
     
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  2. slutwolf

    slutwolf Porn Star

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    I'd say you fucked up.
    Move on.
    You can't change what people like and enjoy , especially with that attitude.

    (you are the one making it "about you")
     
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      Do not feel bad!!! You deserve this. I am sure there are countless things you do for her that is not a benefit to you. But you do these things because you love her.
       
      Sweetpassion, Apr 16, 2018
    3. kmtoplay
      Whether I deserve it or not it is just not happening and if she never speaks about it then it is an elephant in the room. Our marriage will unravel at its core over this topic because of the lack of communication that is present.
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
    4. Sweetpassion
      Yet she will still never see it sweetie. These type people are too selfish.
       
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      Its funny you say that because everything is always about her always. I could site hundreds of examples to prove this but why bother. I have decided to make it about me now instead of her. I really need to find a compatible sexual partner at this point in my life. I dont think I can carry on like this for 20+ more years without losing my mind
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
    6. Sweetpassion
      This did not shock me to read. Not in one bit. I kinda figured this already..... It being about her. If you decide to make it about you. It will still be about her.
       
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  3. mdesk66

    mdesk66 Porn Star

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    Ya most likely the wrong thing to say. I used to get a nice bj 1 to 2x's a week. That was about 8 years ago!

    I compromised and paid $30 for a synthetic mouth on adamevedotcom.....no "im tired", "dont cum in my mouth", and "is that all you think about" anymore for me....just a couple dribbles of lube and im im! Haha
     
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      I have never been good in arguments. My tactic is Jugular each and every time and it does not serve me well with my wife because inevitably I will say something that I will regret and pay for dearly.
       
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  4. Sweetpassion

    Sweetpassion Pink gum drops.

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    No fuck that!!! She is really going to cut you off and not tlk to you because you have a sexual desire you are trying to discuss with your wife about? Of course out of anger you lashed out asking if someone else could give you that. Cause it was hurtful to you that your own spouse would not even consider this being something you would love to enjoy the pleasure of getting.

    I am sorry i just have different views on this. If you do not try to keep your man satisfied sexually then there are many others that would love to.

    It is part of your duty as a wife to try to give you pleasure. To try to make you happy in other ways as well. Marriage and relationships should be about working together to keep each other happy.

    Look my spouse does not even do half the things i need or want in general. But no damn way i would hold sex over his head. Like dangling steak over a starving dogs mouth.... you want this?? Do you?? How bad show me?? How dare you want a blow job!!!! I feel like it should be written in the vows.....i promise to try my hardest to please you sexually and keep you satisfied. Lol
     
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      When a friend of mine married his cousin he put that in his vows.
       
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  5. NemisisName

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    Explain to her that it means alot to you and it’s really nice to kick back and receive such a nice thing from her and it makes u feel appreciated? That got me temporarily back in the loop until we divorced lol.
     
    1. kmtoplay
      Tried that. Told her how much it means when she does things without asking no go there. At some point you just stop asking but it eats at you inside
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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  6. msman

    msman Porn Star Banned!

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    Some people just do not enjoy some things. They can force themselves or allow other people to force them into doing something they do not like but one day they will have enough. Think about something you do not like then think how you would feel if your wife demands you keep doing the one thing you hate.
     
    1. kmtoplay
      She used to do this on a somewhat regular basis let me say it was not weekly but at least once a month or so. The thing is last one she gave me was so good that all I could think about was if you never do this to me how can you all of a sudden be so much better at it. Then my mind starts to wander on me.
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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  7. shadowfap

    shadowfap Fap Happy Jester

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    Your wife is being really childish by not providing an actual explanation. I think you mentioned before that you've gone down on her. Are you satisfied with that? Don't you feel that it is selfish to enjoy that and not reciprocate? The both of you should find a compromise or go your separate ways because that isn't healthy for either of you.
     
    1. kmtoplay
      My thought exactly. After the initial outburst I sat down with her very calmly and asked her to help me understand what is going on why you do not do that or enjoy it now. She stared at me with no expression and no answer. After some time I told her I need some type of response this is a question that must be answered. She just stated that she does not like to do that picked herself up and walked away. Instead of pushing it I sat back and thought about what she said and just let it go. No point fighting about something that you have no idea what you are fighting about. I am coming to terms with what it may be like to go elsewhere to be happy long term
       
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  8. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    There are only two reasons a person will put a cock in their mouth, excluding getting paid. First, is they like it. Second, it makes their partner happy. It looks like you've lost on both counts.

    When a woman says "I don't want to and I don't have to" what's really going on is, you've done something to piss her off. It's not so big a deal that she'll dump your clothes in the yard and set them on fire, but it is big enough to deny you something you like.

    You're in a no win situation.
     
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      Without a doubt. There have not been many things done over the years to "make me happy" mostly it is about her and her needs and her schedule etc etc. I just SMH and bury it deep inside.
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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      Sad!!
       
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  9. kmtoplay

    kmtoplay Sex Machine

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    Look there are always 2 sides to a story I am just asking to hear hers which she will not let out. So until she does we are apparently at a stalemate because I can no longer just ignore this situation without some sort of resolution. If she does not like to blow me anymore and she knows it really pleases me I take it as she no longer cares if she pleases me at all that is just my interpretation. I am sure she has issues with me but without open and honest dialogue how would I ever know.
     
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  10. Jhalp55

    Jhalp55 Sex Lover

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    To me, if there is no real explanation behind it, and she just shuts down and won’t discuss it....then this is just the tip if the iceberg. There are hidden issues beneath the surface, and this is just how she is manifesting anger for those issues. She takes away something she knows you enjoy, and can hurt you with. Something else is going on. There is a much deeper rooted problem than just, i dont like it. Until you find the actual problem, you are in for it bro.... i know because this is kind of the exact scenario that happened to me. And then i came home from work one day, the wife was packing her bags, said i fucking hate you and left. No explanation.
     
    1. kmtoplay
      I could see that happening. She is that type of woman keeps it close to the chest and does not let people in even me after a few decades. I have decided for now that we make really great roommates and good parents so we will work on that and if the other conversation happens then it happens for now I will focus on what is truly important to me
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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      Thats all you can do man. Think of your kids also. If you want to talk more about it, like privately on a serious level, please do PM me. Id be willing to listen or offer advice.
       
      Jhalp55, Apr 16, 2018
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  11. plzufirst

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    This is what "irreconcileable differences" means. Without communication your marriage will crumble and if you threaten divorce you'll probably find she's already preparing for it.

    Don't make the conversation about BJs--make it about honesty, sharing & communication. Maybe suggest--in writing--you get counseling together.
    Even if it goes nowhere it'll sound good later in court.
     
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      Good advice I am looking at that aspect as well I believe an impartial 3rd party may just be exactly what we need to get all the issues on the table. This obviously is not about sex for her.
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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  12. 1 Toy Maker

    1 Toy Maker Kuns og Kram Smukke Love once found never lost

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    Quit while your ahead, if she can't give you an answer or communicate she's done with you. Sucking dick is a prerequisite for marriage if it's not happening its the big D time!
     
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  13. shavenguy4u

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    I'd happily suck it for you bro, like a pro! Every single inch of it
     
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      Now that is a fine response!
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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  14. shavenguy4u

    shavenguy4u Porn Star

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    Not the most sensible response, granted, but still a genuine offer ;)
     
    1. kmtoplay
      LOL I am all about keeping things light so It is appreciated for sure... I have had quite a few offers from men which has made me really think about what I may be missing out on
       
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  15. shavenguy4u

    shavenguy4u Porn Star

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    Are you on kik? Message me here if you fancy chatting
     
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  16. Metalheads

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    I don't know man it kind of sounds like she might have a side piece.
     
    1. kmtoplay
      I highly doubt it but hell you never know. Our situation would make that next to impossible for her but a side piece does not have to be necessarily in person and physical to be a side piece
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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  17. Bron Zeage

    Bron Zeage I am a river to my people

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    You're not going to hear her side of the story by asking questions here.

    The other part, about her wanting to please you, you got that right. It's time to ask the question, "If you knew that things would never change for the better, what would you do?" Simple enough. If you can live with it, as it is, start doing that today. If you can't, start making plans to separate. You might find something better, or you might be alone. Whatever happens, you don't have to stay with someone who doesn't care how you feel.
     
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      Well stated for the time being I will live with it and have been doing so for a while. I do not show animosity or contempt I treat it as a living arrangement similar to a roommate. The kids are top priority to me so this is a side issue for the moment. I will work on the communication aspect once some dust settles and we have time to sit down without distraction. I hate doing this at night because if it ends unresolved nobody sleeps and that is not good for the kids. I have taken many suggestions from the comments and will put them to work. I am certain a lot of what is going on could revolve around me and my actions but i need to here what that is to be able to change anything. If it is not me and it is her and she has moved on then so be it I will not dwell on it or turn it into my lifes work
       
      kmtoplay, Apr 16, 2018
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  18. Metalheads

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    Sorry man, that sucks to deal with.
     
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  19. kmtoplay

    kmtoplay Sex Machine

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    Thank you all for comments and suggestions. This may seem like an odd place to post things of this nature but honestly this group will respond honestly and does have sound advice through personal experience. You filter out what works for you and try a few new things and see where it leads you.
     
    1. Sweetpassion
      You have to reach out somewhere or it will drive you crazy. I am sorry and i know the pain is hard to deal with.
       
      Sweetpassion, Apr 16, 2018
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  20. Hussie6776

    Hussie6776 Occasionally. So what..?

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    I think it was my mother that said... If you've got nothing nice to say, say nothing at all (she was an illiterate immigrant, excuse her English). Against her advice...

    This situation sucks (someone would of eventually said that). The worst for me, would be, how long has she been doing something so personal and intimate, whilst struggling with whatever degree of repulsion..?! I would be disgusted and horrified by that fact alone. I would have a problem of proportions that would almost certainly result in dividing the furniture with a chainsaw.

    Single by design..
     
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